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America on the ropes in Iraq?

Senior US genrals make some gloomy assessments on the ongoing war in iraq.

In Vietnam, the US was eventually defeated by a well-armed, closely directed and highly militarised society that had tanks, armoured vehicles and sources of both military production and outside procurement.

What is more devastating now is that the world's only superpower is in danger of being driven back by a few tens of thousands of lightly armed irregulars, who have developed tactics capable of destroying multimillion-dollar vehicles and aircraft.

By contrast, the US military is said to have been slow to respond to the challenges of fighting an insurgency. The senior officers described the insurgents as being able to adapt rapidly to exploit American rules of engagement and turn them against US forces, and quickly disseminate ways of destroying or disabling armoured vehicles.

The military is also hampered in its attempts to break up insurgent groups because of their 'flat' command structure within collaborative networks of small groups, making it difficult to target any hierarchy within the insurgency.

The remarks were made by senior US generals speaking at the Association of the US Army meeting at Fort Lauderdale in Florida and in conversations with The Observer. The generals view the 'war on terror' as the most important test of America's soldiers in 50 years.

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Iraq and Afghanistan are sucking up resources at a faster rate than we planned for. America's warriors need the latest technology to defeat an enemy who is smart, agile and cunning - things we did not expect of the Soviets.
'' one three-star general said.

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By netchicken: posted on 11-3-2007

passing the buck BS is all.

We are going to be defeated because we have one heck of a military but we lack the military will.
There's no way to fifght a polite war, especially against an enemy who sees humane actions as a sign of weakness.

Had we won the war and acted as if we won the war, had we been harsh when responding to acts of senseless and cowardly terror, all this extra-curricular crap would not be happening.

Point in case; remember how Lybia decided to stop acting the fool when it was clear we were in the clock-cleaning frame of mind? Also, notice how right after the war reporters and otehrs could wander into any Iraqi restaurant, even in the Sunni Triangle, and not be murdered 2 minutes after ordering tea?

Waging war with anybody, anytime, anywhere....that we can do. Understanding how the Islamic world thinks seems to be well beyond our dim-witted leadership.
By Thomas_Crowne: posted on 12-3-2007

Well, like Vietnam:

We simply cannot fight a war bogged down by "ethics" which tie our hands, when the enemy does not abide by them.

We will not win the war in Iraq because we do not fight on their terms.

To win against these we would have to be as willing and cold blooded and single minded in pursuit of our goal as they are.

Geneva conventions protections should not apply to those who did not sign into it.
By Twilight_Rogue: posted on 15-3-2007

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Originally posted by Twilight_Rogue
Well, like Vietnam:

We simply cannot fight a war bogged down by "ethics" which tie our hands, when the enemy does not abide by them.


Well, thats one problem coupled with groups of americans who are blatantly working to undermine US efforts on every front possible. I have news for these people, thats TREASON!

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In Vietnam, the US was eventually defeated by a well-armed, closely directed and highly militarised society that had tanks, armoured vehicles and sources of both military production and outside procurement.


That wasnt why vietnam was lost and we certainly were not defeated. There is an old saying about vietnam, "Its the war where we won every battle, but lost the war." The reason is because we gave up. Why? For the same reason we will lose in Iraq, people on the home front working to undermine the war.

Well, I can only hope the next attack directly affects these people.
By Xphilesphan: posted on 27-3-2007

Yea youíd think the American government would have learnt from
Previous wars but no, I canít help but think a drawn out war is
Beneficial for someone or something than dealing a hard hand and
Quickly putting an end to a conflict.
So really why donít they go all out and use force as they did in WW2?
Is the American army, air force, navy really tied down to how they
Operate? I know this sound like a dumb questions but I wouldnít have
The foggiest idea of what the chain of command would be in war.
Does the American president have the final say on how a war will be
Planned, or does the head guy, general or what ever in their respective
Fields of command decides on how the war will be done.
By Shan: posted on 28-3-2007

I would imagine its becasue nowadays you have imbedded journalists everywhere the troops go and they arent always sympathetic to the american troops. Alot of journalists allow their politics to cloud their reporting and that often results in inaccuracies.

Also, the politicians are held reponsible for how the war goes so they have to keep the generals from allowing their troops to go all out.
By Xphilesphan: posted on 28-3-2007








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