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Russian made armour piercing grenades in Iraq

Armor-piercing hand grenades have become a favorite al Queda weapon in Iraq. There's virtually no defense against them. Lara Logan reports in this graphic video. Scary stuff.

Another report of the Thermal grenades being used

Pictures and article on

RKG stands for Ruchnaya Kumulyativnaya Granata (Handheld Shaped Charge Grenade). When the pin is pulled and the grenade is thrown a four-panelled drogue parachute is deployed by a spring.

This parachute stabilizes the grenade in flight and ensures that the grenade comes down vertically onto the target.

This might be a photo of one being used.
A militiaman loyal to radical Shiite cleric Moqtada Sadr holds two stick-type hand grenades at a street near Sadr's office in Baghdad's Shiite neighborhood of Sadr City.

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By netchicken: posted on 8-9-2007

To truly combat terrorism, especially urban terrorism like this, you have to remove visibility. If you can be seen you can be hurt. Traditional things like Uniforms, camouflage and the like serve no purpose. The US would have far more success employing un-uniformed, bearded units, traveling in up armored civilian vehicles and operating independently in small groups than they do now.

Sadly the Geneva Convention and the Hague Convention on War do not allow this tactic to be used.
By IAF: posted on 8-9-2007

Iaf thats a great idea, don't Delta use those techniques.

You could even disguise your trucks as delivery vehicles or similar.

I am suprised its illegal...
By netchicken: posted on 8-9-2007

Yeah Delta is said to use some of those tactics but they still do have some discernible parts that can be considered a uniform.

The Conventions of War clearly state that any military operative should be easily distinguishable and should bear arms openly. There are many more conventions about appropriating civilian property and the assets of earlier governments etc.
Here is the part about the "Laws of War and Combat"

The thing about terrorism is not that it is difficult or hard to do. Hell, with the resources the US has at its disposal, carrying out purely a terrorist style of operations would be able to bring the entire world to its knees without loosing more than a 100 men. Imagine at the height of ramadan, the Islamic holiest month, the CIA gets its agents to use a dirty bomb in Mecca and Medina for say small pox. The next day they carry out bombings at the local hospitals coupled with attacks on airports. Millions would die in a month. The virus would spread like wildfire through the islamic world and potentially millions could die in a couple of months. You could call this a victory if you think like Bin Laden; as the Arabs would be groveling for western help. But that kind of war is cowardly and brutal but easy to carry out and win. You use few assets to cause widespread panic and death. 5 men can have the impact of 500,000.

That is why terrorists are so deplorable. Like Gandhi once said "The ends dont justify the means" . Terrorists will use any means to meet their ends. :frog
By IAF: posted on 9-9-2007

Anyobody can be cowardly and place the lives of civilians in jeopardy. This type of "warfare" (it isn't warfare but cowardice in action) is absolutely loathesome. These dirtbags rely on the fact that the Western military units are going to maintain their moral discipline and not respond without regard to civilian casualties.
By Thomas_Crowne: posted on 9-9-2007

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