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DREAD - ball firing gun - latest tech.. awesome..

This strikes me as a variation of "Metal storm".

What is the DREAD, really? How does it work? In a sentence, the DREAD is an electrically-powered centrifuge weapon, or centrifuge "gun".

So, instead of using self-contained cartridges containing powdered propellant (gunpowder), the DREAD's ammunition will be .308 and .50 caliber round metal balls (steel, tungsten, tungsten carbide, ceramic-coated tungsten, etc...) that will be literally spun out of the weapon at speeds as high as 8000 fps (give or take a few hundred feet-per-second) at rather extreme rpm's, striking their targets with overwhelming and devastating firepower.

We're talking about total target saturation, here, folks. All this, of course, makes the DREAD revolutionary in the literal sense, as well as the conceptual one.

According to the DREAD Advantages Sheet,
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unlike conventional weapons that deliver a bullet to the target in intervals of about 180 feet, the DREAD's rounds will arrive only 30 thousandths of an inch apart (1/32nd of an inch apart), thereby presenting substantially more mass to the target in much less time than previously possible.

This mass can be delivered to the target in 10-round bursts, or the DREAD can be programmed to deliver as many rounds as you want, per trigger-pull. Of course, the operator can just as easily set the DREAD to fire on full-auto, with no burst limiter.

On that setting, the number of projectiles sent down range per trigger-pull will rely on the operators trigger control. Even then, every round is still going right into the target. You see, the DREAD's not just accurate, it's also recoilless. No recoil. None. So, every "fired" round is going right where you aim it.

The only thing the DREAD's operator will really have to worry about is running out of ammo, which isnt likely.

Any reasonably skilled gunner (Humvee, APC, Apache attack helicopter, etc.--doesn't matter) should be able to avoid running through all 50,000 (or more) rounds of .308 Cal. or 10,000 (or more) rounds of .50 Cal. ammo prematurely, especially when he or she can dial down the DREAD's cyclic rate to 5,000 rpm or slower, if necesssary.

Even if it becomes necessary to increase the DREAD's magazine capacity to upwards of 100,000 rounds (.308 Cal.) or 20,0000 rounds (.50 Cal.), and run the weapon all day and all night for weeks on end, this will have absolutely no effect whatsoever (positive or negative) on the reliability or durability of the weapon system.

The DREAD is both heatless and frictionless, and doesn;t generate any high pressures. So, theres virtually no wear and tear on the system, no matter how many rounds are fired through it back-to-back, even if it's run constantly on full-auto at 120,000 rpm, the whole time.

Here's the kicker: because it's electrically powered and doesn't use any powdered propellant for it's operation, the DREAD Centrifuge Weapon is virtually silent (no sound signature), except for the supersonic "crack" of the metal balls breaking the sound barrier when they're launched.

This makes the direction that the rounds are coming from, and their point of origin (firing source), very difficult for enemy forces to identify. It also allows the operator to communicate easily with his team, or with his command structure, while he's still firing on the enemy (with the DREAD).

With the DREAD, he won't have to fight to communicate over his own weapon's firing report. And, since the gun doesn't generate any muzzle flash or heat (it's heatless and frictionless, remember?), it doesn't produce any flash signature or heat signature.

So, identifying the gun itself with IR (infrared) sensors will be impossible. The vehicle that the DREAD is mounted on is the only thing that will display a heat signature. That leaves you with a difficult-to-detect/locate weapon with a virtually endless suppy of ammo.

Even if the DREAD-equipped vehicle does get identified and fired upon by the enemy, the risk of a catastrophic explosion from a bullet strike on the ammunition supply is zero, because the DREADs ammunition doesn;t contain any propellant. There;s no gunpowder onboard to blow up. That just leaves the gas tank (vehicles). Nothings foolproof.
By netchicken: posted on 3-7-2004


Another article on DREAD


No heat, no recoil, no sound, no gunpowder, no flash -- just 120,000 rounds per minute of pulverizing power. The next generation of weapons systems has arrived: the DREAD centrifuge-powered weapon system.


Dread ammo looks like golf balls!
By netchicken: posted on 5-1-2006

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Some interesting comments on the system from people in the know....

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Here's another data point on how dangerous the DREAD is to the operator if the rotor ever ruptures due to hits from enemy fire.

The patent shows a rotor with 20 spokes each containing 50 balls (1000 balls total). If we assume 7.62mm diam steel balls are the projectile and the rotor is spinning at 25000 rpm (see my post above).

If you do the calculation, you'll see the rotational kinetic energy of *just* the 1000 balls in the rotor is about 300kJ - that about 220000 ft-pounds of KE!
If the rotor ruptures, the total kinetic energy released from the 1000 balls is equivalent to about 200 slugs from an M16, or about 600+ 9mm Parabellum bullets.

Personally, I wouldn't want to be in a vehicle with the DREAD - its sort of like carrying a flamethrower into combat. The range is short and everyone will start shooting at you in the hopes of seeing something spectacular..
By netchicken: posted on 5-1-2006

More critique on Digg

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Second, these specs are ridiculous. 120,000 rounds per minute? Thats 2000 50-cal steel balls flying out EVERY SECOND. Give me a break. At that rate, even slight friction would quickly accumulate to produce heat, and the recoil produced by launching so many projectiles at such high velocities would be enormous.

I did some calculations and at 120,000 rpm with steel 50-cal projectiles thats about 300 pounds of steel being pushed out each second. There were a lot of other reasons to be skeptical. With magazines of 50,000 rounds, that's almost 4 tons of steel.

What kind of magazine is that?

If you need more convincing, look at the brochures and see all the misspellings. You would think that some guy who has the money to develop this thing could hire an editor.

The video is incredibly fake, as well. Finally, what do they mean by "non-lethal" mode? does it just shoot ball bearings gently at people, or what? seriously.
By netchicken: posted on 5-1-2006

I like the idea of non-lethal weapons or with the ability anyway. The one that looks like a golf ball will probably turn into a new sport for the military LOL. I can just see it, a picture of a leader, with holes in the eyes nose and mouth and points awarded when the ball enters.
By YCON: posted on 5-1-2006

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